Dear Dwayna,
The Talmud and Kabbalah are integrated, but it’s difficult for those in MJ/HR to see it. They think that the "Jewish sages" or sages or ancient writings, ancient teachers, Rabbinical writings are just an "Hebraic mindset" and are from what Jesus/Paul taught. The Talmud is considered "oral Torah" passed down from Mt Sinai. However, there is no recorded evidence of such in the OT.